8 years ago
Sun Aug 30 2015, 02:19pmMin
There's a couple of passages in Obernewtyn where Elspeth's mother is mentioned that have made me wonder about her origins. One about Elspeth's mother putting herb lore on her head, which leads Elspeth to talk about how Herb lore has been outlawed. There's two more passages, while Elspeth's in the garden at Kinraide; one where she remembers a story her mother told her of towers of ice in the sea, and another where she remembers a Beforetime book that her mother read her, about humans descending from apes. She also mentions that she heard many stories from her parents as a child about the Beforetime, that differed from the stories the Herders told them.
This is only a couple of chapters into Obernewtyn, there's bound to be more mentions of Elspeth's mother along the way (if anyone knows of or comes across any, can you post them?).
All I've assumed about Elspeth's mother in the past was that she practised Herb lore in secret, and was tried and executed as a Seditioner. So why, I'm wondering, does she have Beforetime books? Why is she reading stories to Elspeth, particularly one teaching her about evolution?
This probably sounds like a stretch, but was Lynna Gordie a Beforetimer? Was she in cryo, just like Hannah and Cassy? Could she have been a misfit, too? Could telling little Elspeth about evolution have been a way to ease her into her own future and hint that her abilities didn't make her a freak of nature?
Sure, big stretch. Just got to wondering, and wondered if anyone thought the same. Could be - and most probably is - a huge coincidence.
Hmm interesting theory.
My thinking is that the Beforetime books were only a more recent banning - that was why Henry Druid revolted. So perhaps at the time it wasn't banned, so her having them isn't that big a consequence. I guess you could argue why did she have them then? The stories about the Beforetime I think would just stem from stories their parents told them and so on largely. But the evolution one, that's more interesting, probably nothing. But perhaps hinting, it's a nice thought.
If she came out of cryo, how did she get to the Land? Or was there a cryo facility nearby?
It's probably just hinting. Good point about the book banning being more recent.
I bet the ruins where Dell & co live has a heap of cryo pods, it was a first-strike shelter for Beforetimers. That's not too far. Hannah might have seen that one of their misfits/friends would give birth to Elspeth so Lynna had to stay in cryo longer than them. Don't know what the point of it would be in the Ober Chron, other than a neat fact, but it'd be an interesting thing to have going on in the Beforetime chron, as unlikely as it seems...
I don't know, I just found it really interesting that Elspeth keeps talking about her mother's stories and reading to her, and thought it might be worth looking at a little more closely :)
I don't think she's have been in chryosleep, I think it would have been mentioned/hinted more.
Perhaps there is something in her ancestors, though? Like a line down from someone in the beforetime, who knows.
I think the parents were mentioned more in one of the last books, she had a memory of the burning, about Jes. I am thinking that they helped people break out of a council farm or something? They were rebels, or would have been if the rebellion had happened in their time. Man, I wonder if any of the rebels know them? especially the older ones.
Well her dad fed information to the Sutrium rebels, cause that's why he and Elspeth went there. I certainly am more intrigued about them and what they did.
Yeah there could be cryopods there but it was sealed from the inside when they found it, so how would she get out.
8 years ago
Fri Sep 11 2015, 08:45amMin
Special Me I remember a few of us asking for a while whether or not the Llewellyn family knew the Gordies. Since they all came from around Rangorn, and since Brydda was involved with the rebels for a while, and since both Katlyn and Lynna were herb lorists we'd reasoned that they must have known each other. But Isobelle said that they didn't :(
There have to be more areas with cryopods in the Land though, or how else would Hannah and Cassy have gotten out (from The Dark Road)? At a stretch, we know the ones on Norseland were accessible. There must have been others.
And, I don't think it's actually relevant to Elspeth's quest, I think it's relevant to Cassy's story. I think the little bit of hinting, if it is that, is intended for the Beforetime Chronicles, ranging anywhere from a bit of a fun-fact, to a mind-blowing sort of "is this ELSPETH'S Lynna with Cassy and Hannah?!" moment.
There was another mention of Lynna telling Elspeth a story, in Ashling - one about a Snow Queen. While I'm not sold on my theory that Lynna is a Beforetimer, I couldn't help but imagine her watching Frozen in the Beforetime :|
